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Untitled, May 2021

“...following the military conquest of most of the new continent...”

“After the conquest of Mexico and Peru...”

The armies that defeated the Aztecs were comprised mostly by local indigenous enemies, not Europeans, resembling a civil war of sorts. In the end it was a lack of immunity to Old World diseases that wiped out a large portion of the native population, including indigenous allies, in the subsequent years and decades, rather than warfare.

It was these circumstances that allowed Westernized mestizos, who had better immunity due to their partial European ancestry and outnumbered those of European ancestry early in the colonial period, to thrive at their expense and gradually assimilated the indigenous populations across Latin America.

This was a long process and not completely carried out within the 16th century as after the fall of the Aztecs many indigenous populations dispersed across the continent were not under European rule, and remained autonomous for centuries after European colonization began and by then mestizos were the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants in European colonies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.202.192 (talk • contribs) 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Change the name to Spanish People.

Spaniard is an offensive term and the correct form should be Spanish. We have Spanish for Spain natives and Hispanic for all the Spanish speaking people so there's no need to use offensive terms. 144.178.129.245 (talk) 02:12, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you say that it is offensive? --Jotamar (talk) 23:29, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Im Spanish and i don't know why it's offensive, could you explain it a bit further, if I may ask? 88.5.24.153 (talk) 08:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not. Whenever I've seen someone claim that it is, they either don't explain the claim, or refer to false etymologies deriving it from a combination of "Spain" with some other pejorative word that ends in "-ard," such as "dullard." But that's not the actual etymology - "-ard" is just a suffix in older forms of both French and English that turns an adjective into a noun for a person who is [that adjective]. Some of those nouns are negative (like "dullard"), some are positive (like "wizard," from "wise"), and some are neutral (like "Spaniard" or "Savoyard").148.61.93.138 (talk) 02:44, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It does seem like many of the words, in both English and French, with the -ard suffix are pejorative, but I agree that that isn't inherent in the suffix. Looking further at French, there's also, for example, débrouillard = "resourceful" and routard = "backpacker", "trekker". Also, names like Abelard, Bernard, Richard, etc. Largoplazo (talk) 03:27, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In my entire life I've never come across a suggestion that "Spaniard" is offensive. Largoplazo (talk) 03:10, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Has enough sources. 2603:8002:BF0:14A0:9923:8634:166B:2D50 (talk) 07:04, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You forgot to request an edit. Largoplazo (talk) 11:07, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]